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 Post subject: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:33 pm 
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I asked this because i have been at the hospital most of the week because of a good friend of mine who i have kept informed on many things about 2012 that i have been learning. He tried to commit suicide after he saw the 2012 movie. He saw no way out and now way of saving himself. He decided after he went to the movie why wait to feel the pain or stand in line at the pearly gates when there will be alot of people dieing.

Its not something i have really considered other then if i can not get nothing done such as a bunker then i will sit on the terrace with a butch of friends with a martini in one hand and other hands attached to friends. Has anyone else come up with second plans. He has pulled thru his attempt. He was in a coma for 3 days and now recovering very well and a group of us has talked to him. He made some points tho.. he said why would you want to try to survive if it will be a nuclear Holocaust. Nuclear Reactors across the world would leave a cloud of nuclear waist that would keep you undergroup for 20 or 30 years. That water no matter if covers the earth will be so contaminated how would we survive. I kind of would like to know that answer too.
Say if there is a major waves from the ocean related to a semi pole shift or from a solar Flare. Would the reactors shut down automatically and would that nuclear stuff stay protected under water. How long does it take to shut down and protect a reactor?

If we can stay underground just long enough to withstand the waves that would flood the world. I mean this sounds more logical because of history showing about a great flood. I´m doing research on sand tablets and history of the great flood to see what are the similarities across the world. People other then Noah survived. Unless he had 2 blacks 2 Latins, 2 Chinese, 2 Arabic 2 whites.. i mean he would have had to have 2 of every race out there for all of us to exist. So assuming that something similar to this will happen again similar yes to the movie 2012. What then?

My questions could be endless on this. What do we tell people now. I get so many emails part of my profiles on different websites. I don´t know what to tell people anymore.

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:42 pm 
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I'm sorry your friend is not well and not very courageous. There are so many nasty things that your friend could face in this world. If everyone put an end to their life because they were afraid of something then we wouldn't have a world.
Why would your friend go to see that type of movie if he was that fragile?

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:05 pm 
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Thanks well he is doing better.. i have to say im strong and it has passed my head too but just passed thru. Im sure alot of others too. This is not just a "normal nasty thing". this a major thing for this planet. I don´t know what any of the presumed figures would be but guessing that only maybe 20% of the human race might survive. Since there is more possiblitlies in forms of Boats and airplanes when this all hits. this is not exactly the same i think as thinking about getting hit by a car or afraid of being killed walking thru downtown LA at night. Things dont look well and i guess its time think about whats beyond. Yes im strong person but maybe its time for me to get a balance to with what may be on the other side. My friend was a sane person and never did anything like this in his life. His persoanlity is not like it. He believes in this 2012 to much and thats why he has not researched it as well was others. The movie just put pictures to it.

Hope someone can give more answers on the nuclear plants because it doesnt look well for USA with them everywhere. Unless those are shut down in time what happens then?

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:08 pm 
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He tried to commit suicide after he saw the 2012 movie.


After seeing a fricken movie? Oh, how weak we have become.....


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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:34 pm 
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Sorry about your friend. :(

Since early in life been contemplating it, as can't handle how evil this place is; yet after learning very young it might only be until 2012, realized might stay an help. :?
Looking forward to the whole event, as reality is not as perceived, as many prophecies have been fulfilled, that people don't realize. :)
Which basically means the chances of going to some afterlife is limited and it might all soon be one reality. :idea:

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:38 pm 
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1) No one knows for certain that anything bad will happen in 2012. Tell your friend he would feel pretty stupid watching everyone partying down here from up there at the pearly gates :(
2) Dying is a natural thing. It can happen to any of us at any time.

OK we don't want to go in horrific circumstances. Suicide just might be an option if you were dying/suffering in a stricken world and wanted a quick way out. But he's not to know, at this point, whether he might be a survivor and one of those needed to rebuild the world. That's if anything happens.

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:40 pm 
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It can be a bit of a shock when someone you know does something like this - how are you doing Pyrenees?

It's a movie. Worse, it is based on the Christian End-of-the-World scenarios but blaming it on the Maya. Life brings what it brings, we cope or we don't. There's much better things to do with our time than end it for fear of what might (or might not) come.

It may be if enough of us get into a positive frame of mind instead of concentrating on the disaster mode, we can bring along a good result rather than a doom one. Your friend might want to find something worthwhile to dedicate to for the couple of years left - in one sense he has given up this life, so he is now free to find a new one.

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:44 pm 
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I'm not going to condone what he did. Its wrong to give up now. Since i have seen the movie more things have come to my head but im stronger. Im going to start to study the movie because for me its a way to learn more things that i keep forgetting to do. The movie is just putting in pictures of what may come of many different scenarios. The Movie I think is a way for the bigwigs of the world to not feel so guilty for when all the deaths happen when the change takes place. Its a very realistic scenario. Solar Flares seems to effect the earth alot in many ways. I mean the moon effects our tides alot and that's smaller then the earth. So why not the magnetic solar flare effecting the earths magnetic poles. Any scientist will tell you our magnetic fields are not very strong. So with a good solar flare hitting it could react in many ways.

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 9:52 pm 
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thanks for asking Ac.. and your right Pips.. Its been intense to deal with but im strong and im a survivor. I mean.... I had friend back in the 80´s commit suicide but he had cancer and no hope. To see a healthy person try to do this. Also to feel a bit ummmmmmm like i was the cause of it. I know i know I'm not..but gosh.. big long of a week... I know that people make their own decision in life. After a group of us stayed at the hospital night and day i had to go see a therapist not to feel like a victim of this and why he did it. Alot of us are possibly going to lose alot of people we love. Are we all prepared for this?

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:02 pm 
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Sorry for your friend, But if he has the nerve and the conviction to go thru with it, then why not wait until TSHTF, and things were not going good,,, then kill yourself. In the mean time spend you life savings on preps with lots of ammo, or strippers, and just 1 bullet.

He is going to feel like a jackass when nothing happens.


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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:15 pm 
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I'm glad your friend is recovering, and hope he won't attempt to top himself again.

When it really comes down to it, suicide is the most extreme act of selfishness you can perform (within certain parameters, there's always an exception), because you think of nothing beside's yourself and your fears/situation. If your worried about him attempting it again, I'd suggest trying to keep him interested in things outside of himself, preferably that gets him in contact with a lot of people.

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:56 pm 
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Everyone has a good point really... i get it and understand it. hmmm stripper.. hey i know when i lived 12 blocks away in NYC from the towers that i wen to Montreal to get a friend on a flight back to Spain that a lap dance in Montreal took my mind off of planes hitting buildings so not a bad idea......Big reason i left the states after 9/11.

Inside of me I want to think that maybe nothing is going to happen but for some reason in my bones I feel that this has happened before. Its like my instincts are kicking in on many levels. Life is about enjoying your right people and yes my friend would feel like a fool if nothing happen. well he won´t feel anything if he is gone from this planet...

how are any of us going to handle it? I mean alot of us who think of 2012 with disasters (I know alot don´t think the same way about disaster theory) what about people we love that don´t believe us.. Kids with grand kids. Sisters, brothers, parents, wives and husbands? What are we to do about them? leave them behind? Seems so hard to me but when it comes down to survival at that point i guess sacrifice's have to be done.

Nobody answering about the nuclear fall out that could happen thru out the world from nuclear plants... i guess if government's know whats going on then they will shut down before things get bad.. seems a bit strange so much space shuttle and china is doing massive trips to space right now too..

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:10 pm 
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heh, my bad :oops:

Check out this thread
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2716&p=189639&hilit=nuclear+reactors#p189639

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:24 pm 
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Thanks .. thats alot to read about nuclear but what i read so far is that it would be protected and shut down in time and in a secure area so no leakage.. well thats only if the major earthquakes don´t break everything apart.. but thanks.. it looks very positive... thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Needs to asked now..Anyone contemplating suicide?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:52 pm 
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The news of your friend is very unfortunate :( I'm glad to hear things are getting better even if slowly.

I've briefly thought of suicide but to be honest several factors detered me. One being that it is indeed very selfish. What if I am to help someone (perhaps someone I love) but instead am now dead and can't help them. And other than that, if something terrible like that does happen, I just wouldn't want to miss it!! This will be the single largest event in recorded human history, I'd love to be a spectator at least for some of it! Now if I'm in a ditch dying of dehydration and starvation, suicide might be more plausible (though I don't think I could do it even then just out of sheer curiosity of what could happen next or at least the comfort of leaving it in "God's" hands).

Either way, I'm sorry to hear of such an event especially being spurred by a movie of all things. A depressing outlook, but one that prepared me for reality is you're born, you dodge death throughout your whole life (who knows how many times you were one minute away from being in a fatal accident etc), you struggle to meet your needs while dodging death, then if your lucky enough death only catches you after many many years. Also summed up as you're born, you struggle, then you die. Depressing only if you fear death though :)


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