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 Post subject: People Problem(s)...
PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 3:08 pm 
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Lots of people all over the place in the world.
No idea what it's like where anyone is except where I am.

Lots of squabbling goes on... one to another.
Lots of wanting things somehow... one to another.
Whatever already is seemingly isn't good enough.
People squawk about things; needlessly to purposefully.

What's it really like?

Outright: there has been Established-about. The order to things already around.
In general: people tow the line to the set order established about. Supposedly from over the years BUT just already-there anymore.

There's all kinds of stuff that goes on...one to another.

Mostly: the young people are brought into the fold. No matter what things are like.
The older people already-there are settled in to the way things are OR hopelessly/haplessly there in return ((what can we do?) keep quiet/let it be?)

Upfront: nobody wants to rock-the-boat as things are.
Seemingly: people put up with who knows what...in the guise of: having what the world offers.

Mostly:
The older people lead the way AND they want the young people to succumb to their dictates: no matter what.
Seems like most young people succumb along to Established-around BUT some are actually
accosted all their days by the Established-around.
There's a good chance that we are mostly numb to what goes on around us. Not concerned citizens instead.

How do things seemingly go-on?

Seemingly: everything is already going on from before we are even born.
Mostly: we are born into whatever already is.
Whatever already-is wants to continue with things however they are already doing-so.
Foremost: whatever to do with ourselves in ourselves as ourselves; doesn't seem to be a concern in what already-is.

Outright ourselves: are not likely much concerned with the selves of others EXCEPT in relation to our own interests.
Mostly: we would have others be in accordance with ourselves...no matter what.

RESULT = we are probably no better than those that came before us AND those that follow us after (in it all).
We may see things different while we are young and naive/unwary BUT worldly ways...brings us to the cold-blooded reality of what-all goes on.

There's a good chance that the well-being of others isn't anything that we really take unto ourselves.

Everybody wants things however in relation to theirselves NOT: there you go other guy.

There's all kinds of people around.
We all have our own natures NOT the natures that others possess as themselves to be.
How our interacting with each other goes depends on how we be to each other.
Peace, joy, love ISN'T the way we really are one to another...en masse.

We may be able to have a suitable impression OF better thoughts BUT it's not really us to float along to such tune of things.

ANYWAY: we already are AND things are already somehow THAT we are mostly HAD in line with.
Mostly: we let things be, as they are, no matter what things are like.

We may continue along with already is.
We may submit ourselves BY the way things go in already are.
We may be looking at a seemingly endless battle of some kind.

It's unlikely, that we'll all live happily ever after BY already-is OR even ourselves instead.

BETTER or WORSE:
It's all a matter of: our own wills versus the wills of others all around us.
We don't really take care of things for others EXCEPT in the way that it suits ourselves for them to have it like.
What these people, that we have it somehow like for, have to say about things...is not a real concern that we have.
We, ourselves, don't really care, what others have to say about things.
We put ourselves in the face of others.
We'll stick it to them, if we can, if we are of mind, to do-so.
Chances are that we want things our way IF we can get things: our way.
Most likely: there isn't really anybody THAT knows anything ABOUT anything ANYWAY.
SO:
Who cares outside of theirself, as far as stuff goes? Nobody.

IF anyone does come off as caring THEN the school of hard knocks WILL have its' affect on them eventually AND:
we are all, just as good, no better and no worse THAN everyone else. (All-in-all that-is.)
Younger years turn out however in their older years.
Older years were once young too you know.

BOTTOM-LINE:
We have ourselves and what comes of us...to show for ourselves and what came of us.
Maybe we get heralded through the streets.
Maybe we become targets of those that envy us.
Maybe we have our day BUT eventually things pass.
Maybe we get people riled up and "we're history" (that's it for you).
Maybe we just trample all-over each other AND nobody gets anywhere.

We all want to say-so to others BUT nobody wants to be told-so BY another.

You live your life AND I live my life...
Doesn't appear to be the way we are: one to another in actual.

Nevermind: how things appear to be, already right now, far and wide.
We all have our own view of things, already right now, no matter...

Are we as good as we could be seen?
Are we as bad as we could be seen?

Good chance that we are very accepting of OURSELVES in being.
Good chance that we are not very accepting of OTHERS in being.

Seemingly:
We can all somewhat hear of: everything being.
BUT
What's the chances that it's just a dream OF things being better THAN they are?
A dream that seems unlikely to ever be realized in ACTUAL (everything being that-is).

Is there something in our way besides one-another?
Gods/Aliens: are just another form OF: one-another.


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For What Its Worth :idea:

Got it on reel-to-reel. :roll:


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vision-master wrote:



NICE!!!! ..There's something happenen' here...

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Going one better: If everyone would just STFU for awhile..


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Excellent gw.


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Now i'm in a folk music state of mind! Going to have to call out some Peter, Paul, and Mary!

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i think it's more than a fantasy, i think it's an organic process, it's all fine (the bickering, the talking, the hugging, yelling), but getting on and spreading the love will bring greater and greater joy...so my cat says, as she is smiling at me and purring.


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lisofby wrote:
i think it's more than a fantasy, i think it's an organic process, it's all fine (the bickering, the talking, the hugging, yelling), but getting on and spreading the love will bring greater and greater joy...so my cat says, as she is smiling at me and purring.


uh huh. cats have claws and fang teeth for a reason. (But i do love my kitties! LOL)

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gypsywitch wrote:
Now i'm in a folk music state of mind! Going to have to call out some Peter, Paul, and Mary!

How about Peter Pumpkinhead:


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lisofby wrote:
i think it's more than a fantasy, i think it's an organic process, it's all fine (the bickering, the talking, the hugging, yelling), but getting on and spreading the love will bring greater and greater joy...so my cat says, as she is smiling at me and purring.


Does your cat spread love and joy when she's torturing birds to death for fun?

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lisofby wrote:
i think it's more than a fantasy, i think it's an organic process, it's all fine (the bickering, the talking, the hugging, yelling), but getting on and spreading the love will bring greater and greater joy...so my cat says, as she is smiling at me and purring.


Does your cat spread love and joy when she's torturing birds to death for fun?

"lisofby" may not be with us anymore.
Said she was going on, leaving the Forum.

Animals may not really kill their prey before starting to eat them.
Cats in particular, may just be cautious of what they attack.

Nature shows showing animals taking down game, don't flat out kill their prey straightway.

Some people say that cats "toy" with their prey.
May just be something some people think.

A Google search may get a more "known" answer.


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upagainstit wrote:
Lots of people all over the place in the world.
No idea what it's like where anyone is except where I am.

Lots of...

...What's the chances that it's just a dream OF things being better THAN they are?
A dream that seems unlikely to ever be realized in ACTUAL (everything being that-is).

Is there something in our way besides one-another?
Gods/Aliens: are just another form OF: one-another.

So what if...?

I've written about the Field possibilities for us. INcluding that there seems to be Field that are Just-Us and others that seem to be All-Us.

So I'm wondering, what if the All-Us field gets modified according to who we become, like the blackbirds in Holland from before WW2 modified their field to know about milk bottles? And what if, the Just-Us comes along with all out wishes and dreams and ideals and gets subsumed into the All-Us and picks up the bitterness, the disappointment and the failure of dreaming?

I have been, twice in the middle of 100,000 people with a mission. Actually more times than that but the others were at the footy and while the feeling is there it isn't as noticeably controlling. But in the crowd, with political motives running, it was VERY hard to break from the mob-mind. The compulsion was extremely powerful and controlling. The first time I had to make my way to the edge of the mob to be able to get my mind back - fortunately I kind of drifted that way and was close to the edge of the crowd when I began to wonder where my mind had gone... where 'I' had gone.

Or maybe BECAUSE I got close to the edge of the crowd I could even think that.

The second time I could feel the mob-mind coming and was aware of it enogh that I could kind of flirt around with it. When I heard myself beginning to chant with them I grabbed my GF's hand and dragged her to the edges.

Maybe when we come here we have our Dreams, but we don't expect the compulsion of 7 billion sleepy minds and it puts us to sleep as well?


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NICE!!!! ..There's something happenen' here...





....what it is ain't exactly clear. :wink:

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upagainstit wrote:
Privateer wrote:
Does your cat spread love and joy when she's torturing birds to death for fun?


Animals may not really kill their prey before starting to eat them.
Cats in particular, may just be cautious of what they attack.

Nature shows showing animals taking down game, don't flat out kill their prey straightway.

Some people say that cats "toy" with their prey.
May just be something some people think.

A Google search may get a more "known" answer.


Here's a forum discussion on cats "toying" with birds:
http://www.catforum.com/forum/37-behavior/126830-why-do-cats-toy-their-prey.html


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I have been, twice in the middle of 100,000 people with a mission. Actually more times than that but the others were at the footy and while the feeling is there it isn't as noticeably controlling. But in the crowd, with political motives running, it was VERY hard to break from the mob-mind. The compulsion was extremely powerful and controlling. The first time I had to make my way to the edge of the mob to be able to get my mind back - fortunately I kind of drifted that way and was close to the edge of the crowd when I began to wonder where my mind had gone... where 'I' had gone.

Or maybe BECAUSE I got close to the edge of the crowd I could even think that.

The second time I could feel the mob-mind coming and was aware of it enogh that I could kind of flirt around with it. When I heard myself beginning to chant with them I grabbed my GF's hand and dragged her to the edges.

Thanks for passing on this first-hand experience of yours.


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