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 Post subject: Response to the "Mayans" 2012 claim
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:19 am 
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All of the 2012 doubters keep bringing up the article that is floating around online where "Mayans" are claiming that nothing will happen in 2012 as a result of their calendar ending, well here's my take on the situation.

Like I've mentioned in my previous posts, the world isn't ending in 2012, the human race is. Several people claim that because the Mayan calender ends on December 21st, 2012 that it means that the Mayan's are just switching to a new calender and that it means nothing, but in my opinion, each calender symbolizes a new beginning for a new civilization after the previous civilization has gone extinct. Basically history repeating itself each time a calender ends and begins. So the end of this calendar is symbolizing the end of the human race, and the next calendar symbolizes the dawning of yet another race that will re-populate our earth. So for all of you people bringing up the fact that the Mayan calendar ending on December 21st, 2012 means nothing, well, think again.


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 Post subject: Re: Response to the "Mayans" 2012 claim
PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:29 am 
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xHybridx wrote:
All of the 2012 doubters keep bringing up the article that is floating around online where "Mayans" are claiming that nothing will happen in 2012 as a result of their calendar ending, well here's my take on the situation.

Like I've mentioned in my previous posts, the world isn't ending in 2012, the human race is. Several people claim that because the Mayan calender ends on December 21st, 2012 that it means that the Mayan's are just switching to a new calender and that it means nothing, but in my opinion, each calender symbolizes a new beginning for a new civilization after the previous civilization has gone extinct. Basically history repeating itself each time a calender ends and begins. So the end of this calendar is symbolizing the end of the human race, and the next calendar symbolizes the dawning of yet another race that will re-populate our earth. So for all of you people bringing up the fact that the Mayan calendar ending on December 21st, 2012 means nothing, well, think again.


I do not believe in "The end of The World"
But Mayan calendar seems affecting our world, and many said that incident and prediction of mayan calendar are terribly accurate. Now let me ask you, there are many of predictions about 2012. But how can bible, mayan, and ourself can say that in 2012 there will be something can happen? And why Mayan calendar ended in December 21st, 2012 at 11.11 A.M

That is just not coincidence...also some said that December 21st, 2012 at 20.12. I would say that these thing like this are all bullshit. I said that I didn't belive for "The End Of The World". But I believe something would happen. If I were you...I will think about this and I will seek what is right for all of us...


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 Post subject: Re: Response to the "Mayans" 2012 claim
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:17 am 
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Yeah they were real accurate. If they were so good at prophecy how come they never saw that blind side attack from the Spanish that almost wipe them out. This end farce stuff is nothing new. Since man begun keeping records of his existence these things have came and went without a hitch i.e 1984, Y2K and so on, all ended the way they started uneventful. It's just the human races obsession with its own doom. Kind of sick and twisted if you ask me and no one is. Some one name one major end time event that was predicted and it happened? Just one.

Old Nostrodamus started the 1999 scare with his "King of Terror will reign from the sky". That went in the tank as well.

Jesus Christ Second Coming as been predicted for the last 2500 years he ain't here yet. Though most will argue that no man knows the time or day. Apparently he don't either. Doom and gloom is just what it purports "rhetoric" that's all it is.


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 Post subject: Re: Response to the "Mayans" 2012 claim
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:34 am 
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Like I've mentioned in my previous posts, the world isn't ending in 2012, the human race is. Several people claim that because the Mayan calender ends on December 21st, 2012 that it means that the Mayan's are just switching to a new calender and that it means nothing, but in my opinion, each calender symbolizes a new beginning for a new civilization after the previous civilization has gone extinct. Basically history repeating itself each time a calender ends and begins. So the end of this calendar is symbolizing the end of the human race, and the next calendar symbolizes the dawning of yet another race that will re-populate our earth. So for all of you people bringing up the fact that the Mayan calendar ending on December 21st, 2012 means nothing, well, think again.


The Mayan calender does not "end". It is a cycle, and there are many dates given well past 2012 in Mayan records that support that assessment. Of course, if you want to believe something for no rational reason, that's your perogative. Do you have specific Mayan texts in mind that would agree with your theory?

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But Mayan calendar seems affecting our world, and many said that incident and prediction of mayan calendar are terribly accurate. Now let me ask you, there are many of predictions about 2012. But how can bible, mayan, and ourself can say that in 2012 there will be something can happen? And why Mayan calendar ended in December 21st, 2012 at 11.11 A.M


Indeed, why does our calender end on December 31st? Impending doom, you think? And what exactly does the Bible, the Mayans, and "ourself" say about the matter (2012, that is)?

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Yeah they were real accurate. If they were so good at prophecy how come they never saw that blind side attack from the Spanish that almost wipe them out.


Maybe because the Spanish arrived several hundred years after the Mayan kingdom "fell"? You probably mean "Aztec", or "Inca", no?

The Long Count calender has some significance, no doubt. But I think it's important to separate what the Maya talked about versus what people have talked about what the Maya talked about.


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 Post subject: Re: Response to the "Mayans" 2012 claim
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 7:31 am 
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The Maya are not gone. There are roughly 7 million Maya speaking people today. In fact, it took the Spaniards longer time to conquer the northern Yucatan peninsula than it took them to defeat the Aztecs. This has to do with the decentralized status of the various cuchcabal's during the contact period. The central lowlands were not in Spanish control until the late 17th century, 150 years later. The northern Maya area also experienced the Caste War in the mid 19th century that almost wiped out the creole control in the peninsula. During my dissertation work I mapped several Caste war structures, particularly those at Ichmul:

http://haecceities.wordpress.com/2009/1 ... at-ichmul/

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 Post subject: Re: Response to the "Mayans" 2012 claim
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 Post subject: Re: Response to the "Mayans" 2012 claim
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:14 pm 
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xHybridx wrote:
All of the 2012 doubters keep bringing up the article that is floating around online where "Mayans" are claiming that nothing will happen in 2012 as a result of their calendar ending, well here's my take on the situation.

Like I've mentioned in my previous posts, the world isn't ending in 2012, the human race is. Several people claim that because the Mayan calender ends on December 21st, 2012 that it means that the Mayan's are just switching to a new calender and that it means nothing, but in my opinion, each calender symbolizes a new beginning for a new civilization after the previous civilization has gone extinct. Basically history repeating itself each time a calender ends and begins. So the end of this calendar is symbolizing the end of the human race, and the next calendar symbolizes the dawning of yet another race that will re-populate our earth. So for all of you people bringing up the fact that the Mayan calendar ending on December 21st, 2012 means nothing, well, think again.


Oh, so you know better than the modern day mayans about mayan tradition do you? What suggests to you that a calender ending symbolises ANYTHING? Each year our calender ends and this symbolises nothing. It's just the way we measure the passing of time, their calender was simply longer. The mayans themselves believed it was like a fresh start (alike to our new years) and a time for much celebrebration, but nothing out of the ordinary would happen.

And what makes you think they could even have the means to predict the end of the human race? They could not predict their own demise for gods sake. The calender began August 11, 3114 BCE, and there were humans around before that and oh, look we are still here! Kinda blows a hole in that theory, eh?


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 Post subject: Re: Response to the "Mayans" 2012 claim
PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:18 pm 
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Historical data on these type events proves they never happen.


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