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 Post subject: Let's talk Mayan
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 12:39 am 
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I just saw a history channel show dealing with UFO in Mexico. According to the History Channel the prediction of a solar eclipes was made by the Maya along with a prediction that the "gods" would return. At the same time the eclipes occured there were a rash of UFO sighting all over Mexico.

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The Mayan Calendar

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The Mayan calendar has a starting sate of August 13th, 3114 BC which corresponds to their moment of the fourth creation, the one in which we currently live.

The Mayan calendar is a fascinating combination of mapping the solar year and integrating it with their mathematics and their religious system. The calendar was originated by the Toltecs and was adopted and improved upon by the Maya. The Maya began counting from their year "0" which corresponds to our date of 3113 BC and all dates correspond to this date as the starting point. This is the same rationalle as our calendar starting our year "0" from the birth of a religious leader and the count moving foreward from that point. .

The Maya used two methods to track the passing of time. The Calendar Round and the Long Count. First we will examine the Long Count. The use of the long count brackets the Classic period as this was only utilized and practiced by the Classic Maya. This format is called the Mayan Long Count and breaks down as follows:

1 Baktun (20 Katuns) 144,000 days
1 Katun (20 Tuns) 7,200 days
1 Tun (18 Uinals) 360 days
1 Uinal (20 Kin) 20 days
1 Kin (1 day) 1 day

Dates were indicated in decreasing amounts starting with Baktuns. So an inscribed date of 9.16.6.0.5 translates thusly:
9 Baktuns = 1,296,000 days
16 Katuns = 115,200 days
6 Tuns = 2160 days
0 Uinals = 0 days days
5 Kin = 5 days
Total = 1,413,365 days. Divided by 365.25 (an accurate solar year) = 3869.6 years AFTER 3113 BC, the start of time in this creation according to Maya mythology. Our date for this would then be about mid way through the year 756 BC.

The earliest recorded Maya date is found on Stellae 29 in Tikal, reading 8.12.14.8.15 and would then mean:
8 Baktun 1,152,000 days
12 Katuns 86400 days
14 Tuns 5040 days
8 Uinals 160 days
15 Kin 15 days
Total = 1,243,615 Days. Divided by 365.25 = 3404.8 years after 3113 BC, or roughly near the end of the year 291 AD.

Last recorded inscribed date using the long count from the Classic period was found on the Jadeite Gorget found in Quintana Roo, that date is 10.4.0.0.0. 10 Baktuns (1,440,000 days) plus 4 Katuns (28,800 days) = 1,468,800 days. 4021 years or the modern year 908 AD. For archeologists this also marks the end of the classic period.
The above information is from: http://www.isourcecom.com/maya/themaya/calendar.htm

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:51 pm 
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Hi Nuforce, the Mayan Calendar you have showing is beautiful, I have seen it many times, but.....I thought the Mayan Calendar that held all the predictions about the future was the square calendar with the Mayan "man" seated at an odd angle, I've even read that some theories believe he was an astronaut.
I am by no means an expert on any of this, only a student. I understood also that there were 3 "calendars", one for each time unit, that worked independently yet simutaneously, and the date of December 21, 2012 was the combination of the 3. The Mayan # for this date began with a 13. Here is how I remember it: 13.00.00.00.00.0, something like that, I would have to look it up to be exact.
Whatever the case, it astounds me how accurate their predictions were/are. I was watching the History Channel, this program said the Mayans predicted every celestial event that has ever happened.....to the very minute.....which pretty much made a believer out of me. The Mayan intelliegence had major issues though.....to be able to predict the future with such precision, yet had to sacrifice their own people to insure the sun would rise again.....very odd.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:14 pm 
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Hi Nuforce, the Mayan Calendar you have showing is beautiful, I have seen it many times, but.....I thought the Mayan Calendar that held all the predictions about the future was the square calendar with the Mayan "man" seated at an odd angle, I've even read that some theories believe he was an astronaut..


I believe that was quqacaotototattttt, some long name starting with q, which I am sure i would google up but anyways, if I remember correctly this bearded man appeared from the ocean on a ship and became some kind of god to them which they worshipped and built temples and statues and such.

This also relates to what you later said in your post, how did they know all of this information... most likely because it came from somewhere else, possibly Atlantis... where this bearded man might have came from when they predicited it's demise 11 thousand years ago or something like that. These bearded men probably spread out all over the world and thats why Eqypt and the North American indians and other cultures have the same type of influence and knowledge...

Now I read this from a few books... a long time ago now and I have so many more to read. (i might have made a few mistakes, but there are folks here who probably know what to correct!)


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3 names for the same (possibly Irish or Viking) bloke:

# Quetzalcoatl
# Kukulkan
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There is nothing concrete on the Quetzalcoatl theory. The confusion comes over the name and origin of changing the name. Quetzebloke being the Aztec word and the other one Rob mentioned being the Mayan name for the dude who looked like a bird, but yet a snake? but yet Cortez? But yet a hawk? :shock:

Personally I believe this white bearded man to be the Hawk, aka Horus, Abraham et al. He seeded Meso-America with knowledge after the fall of Atlantis. Crazy huh? :shock:

Interestingly enough, the Mayan Calendar was not the only one of it’s kind. The Sumerians and Babylonians also used the same calendar, albeit the Mayan one is the only surviving one. Well that’s not completely true – the Mayan calendar no longer exists. The one pictured by Nuforce is a colourful Aztec calendar. Which supposedly is not as accurate as the Mayan one? How do they know this when it no longer exists? Hmmm :roll:

The more and more I research the Mayan Calendar, the less answers I find, as more and more seems to contradict with archaeologists battling out for ‘The one theory’. :idea:

As far as sacrifice goes, I think it was the Aztecs who performed this towards the demise of their empire.

I always assumed the Aztec calendar was forged from the Mayan calendar. The Mayan calendar was formed in 3114 BC as noted above, but the calendar start point is some 16 million years ago. This is the 3rd disk in the trio and the disk not many scholars have bothered about.

I think we are now in the 5th night of the 8th step up the Mayan sun pyramid. Each night & day increases in pace with each step up the evolutionary pyramid we go. Hence the reason why the consciousness of time is speeding up. Naturally, the Gregorian calendar goes against everything we are.

There is only one time and that is 'our' time :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 6:48 pm 
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Hi...first of all I would say "thanks" to everyone for their input. After reading your posts I got to wondering where did I get my information that led me to believe the square picture with the "man" sitting was a calendar, (the calendar that I thought predicted an end date of 12-21-12). I backtracked and found the website but after re-reading the article, this is what I discovered: the square picture with the man sitting is the sarcophagus lid of Pascal, describing the tree of life and Pascals descent into the underworld. I have no idea why I thought it was a calendar :oops: . It is a very intersting article though, if anyone is interested here is how I found it ( Yahoo Search-mayan calendar, click on "also try mayan calendar 2012", click on "1. Why 2012").
I do agree Del, I think the information was passed on worldwide by some very intelligent individuals. Rob, I have read lot about Quetzalcaotl, the other two names are not familiar to me though, but I will look them up. You have also given me something to investigate Shu, that being the 3rd disk in a trio, I have never ran across that information either.
Last but not least, I apologize for contradicting your information NuForce, which turned out to be a heck of alot more accurate than what I thought I knew :mrgreen:

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Ancient witness, forget the 3rd disk. The 3rd part is the square stone you are speaking of which was around 7ft x 12ft in size. It was used to navigate the two disks. You could only read the calendar with this stone apparently

This was the stone archaeologists took a rubbing of back in the 40's, as it was found face down in the ground. It didn’t take long for the symbols to wither away after it was face up.

From what I remember this square calendar was found sitting next to Pascals tomb. So, you are on the right track.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:18 pm 
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Thanks shu, I didn't realize the stone was that big, it would have been awesome to see, I wonder if it was intentionally face down?

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 Post subject: Re: Let's talk Mayan
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it comes to my attention your comment about the eclipse and the return of the gods, also the ufos all over mexico, because i have a book that says all of these and more.
the book is wisdom of the heart by flora rocha.

http://www.amazon.com/Wisdom-Heart-Roch ... _rhf_p_t_2


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 Post subject: Re: Let's talk Mayan
PostPosted: Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:57 pm 
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I just might pick that book up....thanks

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