I was reading astralwalker's 2012 Nexus Event on the Project Avalon Forum, based on Paul LaViolette's research, and was wondering about protection from extreme gamma radiation.
Paul LaViolette [or Astralwalker] says andwhich suggests regular schielding, maybe a few feet of earth above you, won't suffice.

Personally, because i'm convinced planets have a hollow center where life is safe from this kind of cosmic attack, i can accept that this kind of regular destruction takes place; after life on the surface is destroyed, the outside can become repopulated from the inside out; that would explain that life can continue, not only on Earth, but also on other planets. Also, it would explain why there are no great civilizations on the outside: a great civilization would know better. Life on the inside is superior to life on the outer part of the shell in many ways: free from constant cosmic radiation, intense solar light that causes aging [according to a number of sources], the threat of cosmic collisions, destruction from the passing of Nibiru every 4296 years, and, apparently, perhaps passing through the galactic plane and suffering immense gamma radiation induced destruction of all organic life.

So maybe we need to take gamma radiation shielding seriously. But how far down would one be safe? Would you have to find a deep mine shaft just to survive?
Anyone specific knowledge about how much shielding would be necessary to survive this projected massive gamma radiation onslaught?

i think a natural cave is the answer thedeepest the better

Any cover is better than none.... I have 12 inches of concrete/steel cue decking and a house on top of my bunker.... all I have then is Luck !
I also have a safe zone in the bunker which I call the Lead house.... I have radiation detectors in the bunker so I will know when it is extreme and I wear a personal radiation dosimeter when I am out and about..... all you can do is your best then like I said all you have then is Luck, right place at the right time I suppose.

Everything above is wrong. The S.E.E.D. specializes in publishing stuff that is utterly useless.

I'll try to keep this short and sweet. I won't write fifty paragraphs of text on a subject most of you wouldn't read anyway.

Try to put 2 meters of shielding at a minimum above your head. 3 meters is overkill but that's what I've got at my thinnest points inside a slope.

Two meters of crushed rock and a meter of earth is literally enough shielding to protect you from a nearby supernova if you properly block up your entrances and guard against reflected radiation. Forget what they showed you in commie agitprop like ON THE BEACH, there is NO RADIATION IN THE UNIVERSE that passes through any mass unharmed. If it can hurt your body, it will be absorbed to exponential degrees by intermediate shielding because if it can hit your subcellular components it can sure as hell hit a molecule in crushed granite or solid earth.

3 Meters of shielding can provide factors in excess of 100,000 PF against radiation or even MORE. Get yourself a calculator and see how much radiation is required with that kind of shielding to even deliver enough rads to make the occupants nauseous. It's a comical, ridiculous number that is outside the realm of probability by a large measure. You might as well worry that all the matter in the universe might suddenly collapse than worry about that kind of radiation.

On the surface of the planet in a regular dwelling, you will boil inside your own skin like an egg in even modest amounts of fallout or during a solar flare/magnetic cookoff down here ... and yet just three meters inside underground shelter you are as safe as if you were in your cradle in a nursery. That's all it takes.

A meter is all you will ever need in a limited nuclear war. In a cookoff of the earth's magnetic shield, you might want two meters just to err on the side of safety. If you go to three meters of overhead cover (crushed rock is best in all regards) you will get protection factors from radiation that boggle the mind. Long after the S.E.E.D. has been turned into a charred birdbath statue topside trying to protect himself with tinfoil and Buddhist love chants, you will do quite nicely in horrific conditions just 3 meters underground. If I thought I needed more I would have gone deeper but you just don't, trust me.

Unlike the S.E.E.D., I read on this subject for 20 years before I posted and speak from personal experience and practical hands-on work.

12 inches of solid concrete and steel plate is at least equivalent to a meter of earth or better. I wouldn't worry too much unless somebody drops a neutron bomb on the street out in front of your home.

Arcane's been through a compromised magnetic field and/or cosmic rays! What was it caused by in the "last world", Archie Bunker?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dKpHtc9 ... re=related

It's cute when he gets angry - like a lovable Jack-Russel Terrier. Somebody rub his heckles down before he bites...

'Apologize for being off-topic. Maybe a new thread: tinfoil tricorders and buddhist prayer-wheels.
Relax Arch, it's All in the Family...

I'm talking about real reasons to shield against excess gamma radiation... Where does this Texan get the tinfoil and chant stuff from?
Thanks for the support, Buddhaworking; it's tiresome to share and get attacked for your troubles.
This Texan character appears to be living in the, indeed, 20-year-old nuclear attack paradigm. What practical experience is he talking about? He's survived TEOTWAWKI before? Maybe should be looking more to brains-on than hands-on...
Luckily, from my understanding of the Hollow Earth, for one, i know that the civilizations in Hollow Earth will not allow a nuclear war and it's not an issue and actually never was. Fallout from reactors that go awry when the whole world is being shuffled about, however, aren't the bombs and explosions that bother them and still need to be taken into consideration. So it's good to know about fallout. Because of this article i read from the owner of the biggest privately-owned bunker in the world, i now realize fallout isn't as dangerous as i always thought. But after having my fears abated by this specialist, i read about this going into the galactic center stuff that might cause us all to get fried by gamma rays, the worst kind.
Of course it would also be good to know about what TA calls "utterly useless" stuff so one knows what to expect after one survives. As the You Will Survive Doomsday article explains, many will survive, but how and for how long? And those who've researched the big picture will realize there's more than radiation to fear. The 'brave new world' some may assume to be the case, may prove a bit more complicated than some were counting on. I'm proud to be a jack-of-all-aces and not some angry and obsessed specialist who lost his humanity [common civility and tolerance] in search of what it takes to survive. Looks like some of us are dead already. Or maybe never human to begin with?

in Archie's defense; "that's jis the way we Arkies talk to each other in the souff."

"'course if ya had anything but space between your ears, you'd know that already"

"There aint no sugar-coating this pill, darling..."

a little "ribbing" never hurt, but let's get back on topic, "sensitivity training for the future" is an old thread, me sure.

So we agree: more dirt is a good thing.

What can i say? I'm a mere human talking about surviving this physical condition, not a 'buddha'...

My understanding is that if we are hit with as intense a burst of gamma rays as you're talking about, the nitrogen in our very atmosphere will be chemically altered and will turn into a toxic, corrosive, brown cloud.

In the event we are hit with something like that, you may as well rely on tinfoil and a prayer wheel. I don't have the money to build a fully contained biosphere 10 to 20 feet underground, and even if I did, I don't think I'd want to grow old and die there.

Let's hope your source on the GRB is misinformed.

Can the Hollow Earth civilizations add another 4 inches to my manhood and lay down some asphalt for my new driveway? I also have some rubbish I need them to cart to the dump for me. When they finish that it's long overdue for somebody to clean the leaves out of my gutters. Do the Hollow Earth civilizations do windows? What about making coffee and scrubbing out my shower mold? Do you have a contact number for the Hollow Earth civilizations where they can be reached during business hours in the daytime?

You keep watching for a last minute miracle save by the Hollow Earth civilizations. Good plan.

Back on topic I think the point is to shield from gamma radiation you can apply the same principals as shielding for a nuclear strike, which emits intense gamma rays if I remember correctly. The rule is the denser the material the better it blocks radiation. The Army Survival manual and a couple sites even list different materials and thicknesses needed to reduce the radiation to minimal levels. Same concept.

I don't think the Earth is hollow, but then again this could just be the matrix then who knows?

Found it!
From US Army Survival Guide

Shielding Materials

The thickness required to weaken gamma radiation from fallout is far less than that needed to shield against initial gamma radiation. Fallout radiation has less energy than a nuclear detonation's initial radiation. For fallout radiation, a relatively small amount of shielding material can provide adequate protection. Figure 23-1 gives an idea of the thickness of various materials needed to reduce residual gamma radiation transmission by 50 percent.



The principle of half-value layer thickness is useful in understanding the absorption of gamma radiation by various materials. According to this principle, if 5 centimeters of brick reduce the gamma radiation level by one-half, adding another 5 centimeters of brick (another half-value layer) will reduce the intensity by another half, namely, to one-fourth the original amount. Fifteen centimeters will reduce gamma radiation fallout levels to one-eighth its original amount, 20 centimeters to one-sixteenth, and so on. Thus, a shelter protected by 1 meter of dirt would reduce a radiation intensity of 1,000 cgys per hour on the outside to about 0.5 cgy per hour inside the shelter.

Where will i be shielded from REALLY INTENSE gamma rays, that's the real question i'm posing here. I don't think a few feet of concrete, normally sufficient, will cover it.

Very nice. The interesting thing about math though....you can never get to zero! 15 feet of concrete and I'm safe!