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 Post subject: Is Nibiru Real or Not? You Decide!
PostPosted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 12:28 pm 
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Hey guys! im new to the forums and I wanted to share this with you guys.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eGjo-sSNc4&feature=channel_video_title

I've seen many debates regarding this topic, some say its real some say its not.

So for those who still think that Nibiru is fake, well its time to wakeup.

So what are your thoughts about that?

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 Post subject: Re: Is Nibiru Real or Not? You Decide!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 12:42 pm 
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I`m still opting for the NOT, if there was a object that big sitting next to the sun, why do the worlds amateur astronomers not see it? that video proves nothing other than what bright light can do within a lens..


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 Post subject: Re: Is Nibiru Real or Not? You Decide!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 1:45 pm 
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I agree with Cammac, if it was real, or if we could see it now, surely we'd have lots of proof from all around the world. Don't think that video counts as proof.

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Nibiru is utterly, completely, FAKE ... just more internet fear-mongering at it's best!

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Did you know the meaning of the word 'myth' has been changed over time. Once it meant historical fact....


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I've never really been a big Nibiru supporter. I think it's a bunch of malarky.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Nibiru Real or Not? You Decide!
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Ken McClellan wrote:
hinged wrote:
Nibiru is utterly, completely, FAKE ... just more internet fear-mongering at it's best!


Well, that was a well-thought-out stance.

So ... the Bundahishn, Bible and Koran are just cute stories?
And Flood stories/myths the world over ... BS?
So why would you join a 2012 Forum?
An apologist for NASA?


Ummm... No I am not and actually I don't believe NASA has given out all the knowledge they possess either.
Are you an advocate for the fear-mongering morons who come here every couple of months showing a few made up youtube videos about Nibiru just so they can get a laugh about how much panic they create?
Do you even know anything about this supposed Nibiru? Try doing a bit of research, as I have done. Here is a start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_(Si ... ia_Sitchin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_doomsday_prediction

Sorry that they are not made up youtube videos ....

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hinged wrote:
Ken McClellan wrote:
Well, that was a well-thought-out stance.

So ... the Bundahishn, Bible and Koran are just cute stories?
And Flood stories/myths the world over ... BS?
So why would you join a 2012 Forum?
An apologist for NASA?


Ummm... No I am not and actually I don't believe NASA has given out all the knowledge they possess either.
Are you an advocate for the fear-mongering morons who come here every couple of months showing a few made up youtube videos about Nibiru just so they can get a laugh about how much panic they create?
Do you even know anything about this supposed Nibiru? Try doing a bit of research, as I have done. Here is a start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_(Si ... ia_Sitchin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_doomsday_prediction

Sorry that they are not made up youtube videos ....


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I think YOU ought to do a little research into Mr K McClellan. If you had 10% of his knowledge, then you would consider yourself learned. If you could find the time to do 10% of his research you would soon be exhausted. Typing "Nibiru" into Wikipedia can hardly be considered "research". :roll:

And if you honestly believe that the disinformation provided by Wiki is more sound than youtube vids then you are also a fool, or at the very least extremely naive.

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 Post subject: Re: Is Nibiru Real or Not? You Decide!
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hinged wrote:
hinged wrote:
Nibiru is utterly, completely, FAKE ... just more internet fear-mongering at it's best!




Ummm... No I am not and actually I don't believe NASA has given out all the knowledge they possess either.
Are you an advocate for the fear-mongering morons who come here every couple of months showing a few made up youtube videos about Nibiru just so they can get a laugh about how much panic they create?
Do you even know anything about this supposed Nibiru? Try doing a bit of research, as I have done. Here is a start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_(Si ... ia_Sitchin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_doomsday_prediction

Sorry that they are not made up youtube videos ....

Did you know that Wikipedia is not an acceptable source for academic research? Most colleges do not count it as a credible source because ANYONE can update and post to it. Just like youtube without the video, I am not saying that there is come kind of standard for authors, any quack can write a book as well but the publishers tend to weed out some of the muck or label it as fiction. Reality is also the only word in the English language that should always be placed in quotation marks, so when debating the fact of Nibiru being "Real" or not is kind of pointless...Who's "reality" are you referencing?

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 Post subject: Re: Is Nibiru Real or Not? You Decide!
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hinged wrote:
Ummm... No I am not and actually I don't believe NASA has given out all the knowledge they possess either.
Are you an advocate for the fear-mongering morons who come here every couple of months showing a few made up youtube videos about Nibiru just so they can get a laugh about how much panic they create?
Do you even know anything about this supposed Nibiru? Try doing a bit of research, as I have done. Here is a start.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_collision
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_%28mythology%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nibiru_(Si ... ia_Sitchin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_doomsday_prediction

Sorry that they are not made up youtube videos ....



@hinged, well that was very disappointing of you judging people like this, I didnt captured and uploaded that video for "fun" or just to get some laughs or to fool people.

I threw my camera in shock when I saw that in my camera screen capturing that, eventually it got damaged, so I uploaded it from another one to show people.

and since you mentioned about spreading panic, why dont you go in Japan and tell them to calm down? yesterday in two parts of my country minor quake came, luckily nobody got hurt.

So dont you think that we deserve some sort of answers? Since NASA or World Governments give a crap about people like us, we should investigate matters at hand, otherwise we'll be the ones who'll get caught in "that" panic.


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 Post subject: Re: Is Nibiru Real or Not? You Decide!
PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:55 pm 
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I've read Sitchin's version of the texts. He was working at a time when many texts had yet to be translated and few people knew the language. He was the only translator to reach the conclusions that he has.

Now that the 90 year project on translating the ancient language has been completed (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... quest.html) there is still no expert on the topic who agrees with Sitchin. I've read all the debunkers of Sitchin who go through the texts word by word and show how Sitchin is wrong, how he misread the texts, leapt to conclusions and misinterpreted words to forcibly suit his personal ideas.

I've read the Atra Hasis and all the global flood myths, and the Enûma Eliš (and the Kolbrin, and many many other texts during my 30 years of researching topics like this one). I don't agree with Sitchin. Was there a flood? Yes, many actually all around the world, but I'm still unsure about anything global and completely earth covering though. Are we engineered by aliens? Not in my opinion - I think those are metaphors about the relationship between the material earth-bound body and our higher-consciousness. Is there a comet on a collision path with earth due around 2012? Maybe, none of us knows for sure but I am counting on the thousands of independent sky-watchers around the world to keep us posted on anything they see. And finally, the Enûma Eliš reminds me of the metaphorical lessons on quantum physics found in the Dogon creation stories: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=22797


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The goal here was to amass for readers every occurrence of the word "nibiru" in ancient cuneiform texts. Fortunately, this is possible because of the diligent work of the compilers of the well known Chicago Assyrian Dictionary, which bases its entries on exhaustive compilations of all cuneiform material known to the present day (there's a reason its taken decades to compile!). The study shows - from the texts themselves, not my opinion - that "Nibiru" is not a planet beyond Pluto and that the Anunnaki gods are never associated with it. These ideas are fabrications.

A study of the word "Nibiru" and an examination of the nature of Nibiru in cuneiform astronomical texts: http://www.michaelsheiser.com/nibirupage.htm

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