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 Post subject: If there is life on Planet X...
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:54 pm 
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I just don't understand the whole concept of life on Planet X, although I do believe in Planet X. If planet x is in our solar system and has an enormous orbit how does the planet get heat to have life. Unless the planet can somehow have its own light source and heat source I don't think that there can be life on it. Also if this planet does come close to earth and causes earth to have crazy shit occur, how long do you think the planet can affect us for? Meaning, when will planet x be far enough away from earth to not have its forces affect us?


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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:03 pm 
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Planet X is orbiting the brown dwarf star, our binary system....

the heat is because it is real close, a small orbit....and there are other bodies orbiting the star....

the binary sister is on an eliptical orbit (actually, our two stars are both orbiting each other with a common center of gravity), and they come closer together once in a long great while....

when they get close enough, the two solar systems have outer planets that actually pass through each other...the orbits, anyway....

and somewhere in the ancient past, probably have had collisions....not to mention the upset of the Oort cloud and other nasty goings on....


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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
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Planet X is orbiting the brown dwarf star, our binary system....


Do you have evidence that the solar system is a binary star system?

I would have thought something as massive as another star wouldn't go undetected. Even if it were dark... the gravity would affect leave evidence.


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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:14 pm 
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http://yowusa.com/planetx/2008/planetx-2008-03a/1.shtml

there are also astronomical observations by the 'big boys' that show perterbations in the outer planets that are as yet unexplained....

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1538-3881/135/4/1161

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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
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forgot to mention, almost all stars are binary, if we're not, we'd be the exception....

http://www.phys.lsu.edu/astro/nap98/bf.final.html

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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:34 pm 
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space wrote:
http://yowusa.com/planetx/2008/planetx-2008-03a/1.shtml


"What came next was a sudden hoax declaration!

NibiruShock2012 (or an impostor) subsequently posted a third video titled "(20)(8)(9)(19)(9)(19)(1)(8)(15)(1)(24)" in response to our video, with the following message:

T H I S --- (20)(8)(9)(19)
I S ---------(9)(19)
A -----------(1)
H O A X---(8)(15)(1)(24)"

I don't see any evidence of our solar system being binary there...

Can you copy/paste the relevant bit instead of making me search through all that...

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there are also astronomical observations by the 'big boys' that show perterbations in the outer planets that are as yet unexplained....

http://www.iop.org/EJ/abstract/1538-3881/135/4/1161



No....

it says this: "Based on extensive simulations of planetesimal disks with the presence of the four giant planets and massive planetesimals, we propose that the orbital history of an outer planet with tenths of the Earth's mass can explain the trans-Neptunian belt orbital structure"

That's nothing like a binary star system. It's just the idea of a big planet. (One that hasn't been found either and probably doesn't exist)

Sorry, but no cookie.


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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 7:45 pm 
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you'd have to read the link, and follow the story....the south polar telescope has 'someone' that leaked some pictures....marshal masters declared it a hoax, but after the third post by the 'loner' had concluded it was not a hoax...

it was just a place to start your inquiry....

same thing with the binary star systems.....that whole discussion is 'why are most systems binary'....

it, too, was just a place to start your inquiry....

I have no proof, but I believe we all will in a year or two...

i'll be right back with better links for you, but I hadn't planned doing the research....

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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star

read at least a couple paragraphs....

http://yowusa.com/planetx/2008/planetx-2008-03a/1.shtml

back to the same on this one, master's says a post by an imposter to discredit the images was a hoax, not the subject matter or the images...

try it again....watch the videos....just take a few minutes....

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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_star

read at least a couple paragraphs....


I did. Especially this one: "Recent research suggests that a large percentage of stars are part of systems with at least two stars"

"A large percentage" does not mean "most", or even "almost all".

If it were "almost all", you could consider that our Solar system should have one.

"Most"... maybe. who knows.

but if it's just "a large percentage", like 5%... then... that's not really much to go on.

And 5% is a large percentage :P Imagine having a company which sells to 5% of the country. You'd be rich.


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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
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a 'large' percentage would have to be more than 5, like over fifty...

I think it is 80 percent...I'll go see if I can find it....

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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
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What percentage of the stars are binary systems?


The Answer
Somebody once said that "2 out of every 3 stars are in a binary". Seriously, the fraction is very high, but it's difficult to be precise, because it's difficult to prove that a certain star is definitely single. Of the stars nearest to the Sun, about half are known to be in multiple systems.
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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 12:46 am 
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I have already posted much of the sites you need buried way deep in the forum.

55% to 80% is the number that astronomers apply to how many binary systems we have.

Because of the shape of our Kuiper belt the chance that we are a binary system gets real close to certain.

Look up Saturn configuration and explore the possibilities. In a nut shell a planet like Saturn puts out energy. If a planet is in the correct orbit it would be in the coma of a Saturn Like planet and have a spring like weather system for a long time never too hot never too colds and would be much more shielded from gamma rays and such like A Garden of Eden like place. Planet X is any unknown object that we have not named. A Nibiru type situation would be very interesting to talk about but nearly Impossible to prove.

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 Post subject: Re: If there is life on Planet X...
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thanks, Goz, I'm not very good at 'proving' what we already know...

your help is highly appreciated....

I feared I was going down in flames....

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http://imagine.gsfc.nasa.gov/docs/ask_astro/answers/980402c.html

The Question
(Submitted April 02, 1998)

What percentage of the stars are binary systems?


The Answer
Somebody once said that "2 out of every 3 stars are in a binary". Seriously, the fraction is very high, but it's difficult to be precise, because it's difficult to prove that a certain star is definitely single. Of the stars nearest to the Sun, about half are known to be in multiple systems.
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OK "space". That is better. Gozguyse5 helped a bit too.

So... let's go with 55% as a low value... It's interesting because most of the stars *I* hear about... are single stars. Is it that most stars are big ones with small companions? And so I don't hear about their small companion because it's not glamorous enough?

Either way... even if they DO have a small companion... a small companion is enough to cause havoc from time to time :) seeing as "small" probably means "bigger than Jupiter".

Thanks for raising the possibility.

I don't consider it DEAD CERTAIN, for all that I know... that our solar system is binary. However... I do consider it POSSIBLE. That is good for you :P

As for what Gozguyse5 said about it explaining the Kuiper belt's formation... I'd have to look into the information you have.

I'd be interested in seeing guesses (based on math) on the likely mass, and orbital distance.

And... perhaps even a guess about the current position, although that's far less important, because it's harder to guess a position than an orbit.


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