I'm new here and need some advice. My husband does not want to talk about 2012 AT ALL. How do I get him on board with trying to stock pile/learn survival skills so we'll *hopefully* be ok

If you just tell him a disaster will happen because the mayan calender ends 2012 then he probably should laugh. Flood him with proof from various sources not involving the mayans. If he will read a book get a couple about the subject for him. If he will not read then study a couple of the websites on the subject and then sit down with him and look at it together. Already know what is on the site and where so you can combat any short attention span by getting to the main data fast. There are a couple interesting youtube videos out there as well. Tell him about peak oil. If nothing else he should be convinced to prepare based on that.

If you have kids use the argument that to be safe you should prepare so your kids will survive and if nothing happens you'll just have lots of extra rice! You can describe a few dramatic nonsurvival scenarios that can happen if you don't prepare. If he is religious at all there is plenty of bible quotes you can dig up describing the disaster and what is supposed to be done to get ready.

If you tried everything and he won't listen then you are stuck with a nonsurvival mentality husband and you need to take matters into your own hands and start preparing yourself. If he won't move to a safe place find a quick escape to the mountains and a place there like a basement, public building with underground area or a cave to take shelter in.

Prepare your survival goods and have them ready to load into the car or get a trailer and just have it packed and ready with clothes, food etc. Start learning about how to survive yourself! If you keep going on about it and getting ready without him he might change his mind.

the thing with him is he KNOWS something is going to happen, he's just too scared to talk about it. It's pretty frustrating because I'm a bit scared myself but can't talk about it with him. Luckily I take care of financials, so it'll just ba a matter of trying to explain the "extra stuff" I have hording around

Start out with little things like candles for a black out and water, then mention that a portable generator mite be a good idea, hey let get one of those gas grills, then it never hurts to have one or two extra tanks of gas.
get the kind of things that you mite be able to trade in an emergency because money may have no value,and keep working on him he may over come his fear and come around, also if you have other family talk with them see if there doing any thing get as many people as you know and don't be pushes about it,( you don't want to be that survivor nut )
but work it into conversations and see how they think about it. and there are many forums just meet as many people as you can that are like minded when the chips are down people will band together.

buy books on survival like plants you can eat, water purification.solar power, ect.ect.

Corrin,
I have the same type of trouble with my husband. I have finally decided to take matters into my own hands as much as possilbe, and not wait for him to agree. So basically, I am just starting on my survival planning. I watch what I say to him because I don't care to hear that lecture about how I am being taken in, and that I worry too much and will drive myself crazy.

At least my husband is big on guns, so we have enough of those, and I have talked to him about stalking up on ammo because of the economy situation (that seems to be working) - though he has not done it yet. The good thing about my husband is that he is a sportsman and a logger, so if available, my food and heat will be covered whether he does anything or not to prepare.

As for the rest of it, I have ordered heirloom seeds and am going to use some of them to start learning how to plant a veggie garden this year (I am terrible with growing things.) I have also started making lists and lists of ideas and supplies. Have also started putting together a survival bucket for each of us, that we can grab if we need to leave quickly. Have also started buying food and over the counter medicines for storage. This I do while trying not to draw to much attention to myself.

It would be nice to be able to discuss some of these things with my spouse, but I know it would be fruitless. So I keep it to myself, and am thankful for this site!! It has given me the courage and the conviction to start this process without any support from the home front. I didn't even know where to start until I came here, so I thank all of you for your help and wisdom.

Eliazabeth, are you sure you're not married to my husband. His idea of the end of the world would be to run out of golf balls. Like you, I have started to take matters into my own hands. Every spare penny is going to stockpile things and I have my lists and stuff.

It's hard to do this on your own but I figure it's going to be worth it. The way I look at it, even if nothing happens the prices are getting so high, that it is good to get things now anyway.

I'm very grateful for this site - at least I don't feel like I'm crazy here. I wonder if for some of us, it's womans' intuition, or the need to plan things out.

Good luck.

Some half-truths that have worked for me:

The bunker property is a "holiday home"
Dec 21 2012 will be a big happy party at the "holiday home"
I'm storing food etc in case of war/flu pandemic/Yellowstone/whatever

My wife isn't into 2012 in the slightest, but she lets me have the above.

rob, how far from melbourne to the mts?

My mountains of choice - about 4 hours drive north of Melbourne. Near Albury/Wodonga on the VIC/NSW border.

I like the idea of a "Holiday Home" - I still don't think my husband would go for a bunker. So I am making my plans using my basement thus far, though I need to have someone look at it structurally. It is an old cement block basement and I am just not sure how it is standing up, though it has not leaked any water yet, there are cracks between the blocks. Anybody have any ideas about the use of a cement block basement, as far as, its quality as a bunker? When I approach the subject of the cracks my husband just shushes me and says everything is fine.

elizabeth, what city are you in... how deep is your basement.... how many floor above the basement...

I live in Northern Minnesota, about 90 miles north of Duluth. There is only the one floor and an attic above the basement - it is an old fashion basement where the block extends about 2 feet above the ground and has 2 small windows in that 2 feet. The basement walls must be atleast 7 feet tall.

Got the same problem here, Corrin, and I've been going on about this for years. Like the others say, do what you can to make yourself feel comfortable/prepared. My partner is not into reading (pity) at all, so will not read the suggested books out of my 'library' and any time I come up with a new snippet of info, usually from this site, his eyes glaze over and he yawns, scratches privates, and gives me a pained look! Good luck.

[quote=. So I am making my plans using my basement thus far, though I need to have someone look at it structurally. "


Basement are good for some but not all events,if radiation were the problem then for get the basement. on less you do the following sure up the ceiling by running cross beams in the opposite direction of the existing joist, square all walls with fire proof sheet rock then cover the walls with sheet lead overlapping 2in. or solder all seams ,then Sheetrock with fire proof sheet rock again over the lead; have a vacuum sealed door installed and have a breathing air filtration system, they have water less toilets, but if you don't have wind or solar power hook ups not a good idea if you have under ground well water great other wise a water will be a problem a short wave radio to know whats going on in the out side world is a good idea but only use it as a radio don,t talk on it. water pure kits are good to have if water gets stagnate.