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 Post subject: Why do people sing with an "American" accent
PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:34 am 
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So why do people with a heavy non American accent sing with an American accent? Brits, Australians, even some rappers. I cannot sleep soundly until this mystery is unraveled.

For example, this fellow is Australian (I assume) yet at the 4:03 mark his Australian accent disappears:




More importantly, why don't Americans sing with a non-American accent? I'm not convinced the American accent is an accent, but rather the lack of an accent. This is all terribly confusing.

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Didn't listen to the video BUT we imitate the sound of the song LIKE it is heard by us.
Notice Cher singing "Walking in Memphis": she's female NOT male BUT imitates a male.
Notice people singing Country and Western which is an imitated sound.

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Didn't listen to the video BUT we imitate the sound of the song LIKE it is heard by us.
Notice Cher singing "Walking in Memphis": she's female NOT male BUT imitates a male.
Notice people singing Country and Western which is an imitated sound.



I heard Cher's version of that song again, just the other day. I like it, but not sure I would say she is imitating a man.

As for American accents, I'm an American and I get annoyed with it, too.


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I heard Cher's version of that song again, just the other day. I like it, but not sure I would say she is imitating a man.

Heard it on the "X Files" some time ago.
Was the impression from it that I had.
Imitating the "sound" of the male singer Marc Cohn.
The impression I had anyway.

Have noticed whenever singing that one tends to imitate the song as it was heard.

Anyway, for the hell of it, here's one after the other, somewhat side by side, maybe even together:
http://2012forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=26255&p=478557#p478557

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Curious. It always seemed to me that, until more recently, American singers usually sang with a sort of faux-British accent.
Swallowing the r's at the end of words, etc.
Country western singers, on the other hand, have always thrown on a heavy
American accent, which strikes me as hokey at best, especially when the singer
him/herself doesn't even have a thick accent when they usually speak.

Perhaps non-American English speaking singers are just trying, consciously or not, to imitate the sound of what they see as the big-money American music industry, thinking it will give them a broader appeal


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Country western singers, on the other hand, have always thrown on a heavy
American accent, which strikes me as hokey at best, especially when the singer
him/herself doesn't even have a thick accent when they usually speak.

Country and Western IS a "way" of singing.

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If a person can actually sing their voice is a musical instrument and there is no accent? The oldest rap song is Hennery the Eight I Am by Herman and his Hermits, and there not really singing there talking to music.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6xkmz ... iith_music


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Learned/Taught to sing and who can/will sing?
Yet anyone can/will sing of their own without HOW you sing.
Who knows how it would go without "in on us" about it?
Do we really benefit from being taught in such way?
Overhauled/Refurbished (something like) away from more natural development anywhere?

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 Post subject: Re: Why do people sing with an "American" accent
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Nigh Times wrote:
So why do people with a heavy non American accent sing with an American accent? Brits, Australians, even some rappers.


You can blame the Stones for that one.

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More importantly, why don't Americans sing with a non-American accent?


Err, The Killers?
(Something called 'glam-rock', allegedly).


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 Post subject: Re: Why do people sing with an "American" accent
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Have you tried to sing in an English accent? Try it. It just doesn't feel right. I imagine English accented people would agree with me.

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 Post subject: Re: Why do people sing with an "American" accent
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Accents typically differ in quality of voice, pronunciation of vowels and consonants, stress, and prosody. Although grammar, semantics, vocabulary, and other language characteristics often vary concurrently with accent, the word 'accent' refers specifically to the differences in pronunciation,

If you sing lyrics to a particular tune, the stresses and prosodies are removed due to the rhythm of the song. The peculiar vowels and consonants of a particular local accent may be difficult to enunciate in a song. The quality of voice is also lost when singing a phrase rather than just saying it. Take all those away and everyone sounds American.

Now, you also must take into consideration that the US market for songs is one of the biggest. No one gets to the top ten in American markets if they "sound funny" which would mean most songs with accents arent favored to be popular, therefore most songs you do hear have only American accents but American market popularity. I am pretty sure other music markets singing in english would probably have a bit of local accents in them and there are songs that become popular over the years because of their unique accents.

case in point

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Yellow wrote:
Have you tried to sing in an English accent? Try it. It just doesn't feel right.


What, you mean like this? :wink:




Yellow wrote:
I imagine English accented people would agree with me.


You can argue that point out with the likes of Pink Floyd, Radiohead, David Bowie, The Sex Pistols, Oasis, Arctic Monkeys - to name a handful. :P


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Shu wrote:
Yellow wrote:
Have you tried to sing in an English accent? Try it. It just doesn't feel right.


What, you mean like this? :wink:




Yellow wrote:
I imagine English accented people would agree with me.


You can argue that point out with the likes of Pink Floyd, Radiohead, David Bowie, The Sex Pistols, Oasis, Arctic Monkeys - to name a handful. :P


Than explain why their english accents are less noticeable when they are singing and more so when they talk.

And by the way, Greenday is a Canadian band.

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