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 Post subject: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:26 pm 
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It might been discussed here before, if so, sorry for reopening the subject.

I have alot of thoughts about this, that I will share with you later, but, what are your thoughts about the 'secret room(s)' below the sphinx?
A few questions:

1) Does it exists / how is it proven?
2) What is inside this room(s)?
3) Why doesn't Egypt allow researchers to do more research?
4) Does the content relate to Atlantis
5) Does the content relate to 2012 or another similar happening?

I've answerd these questions already and will post my thoughts later today or tomorrow.

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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:17 pm 
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I don't know how true these links are, but I believe there is 'secret' rooms. When you look at the pyramids, they have chambers throughout. When you take into consideration of the pyramids, Sphinx, Stonehenge..etc. there is ...sometimes scientific research can not do what feelings can. Anyhow... Edgar Cayce brought up that there is a chamber inbetween the paws of the Sphinx. There was an expidition in the 90's...here's what they found...

This is the link I got this part of info from..

http://carnaval.com/sphinx/

Then you have this, some photos here...

http://www.catchpenny.org/chamber.html

http://www.robertschoch.com/Sphinx_Geology.html

In a series of expeditions between 1991 and 1993 led by John Anthony West, an independent Egyptologist, scientific investigators conducted geological and seismic surveys around the Great Sphinx of Egypt along with other researchers.

The team's conclusion: The pattern of erosion on the Sphinx indicates that it was carved at the end of the last Ice Age, when heavy rains fell on the eastern Sahara - perhaps more than 12,000 years ago.

This contrasts starkly with the 'orthodox' Egyptological dating for the Sphinx of around 4,500 years ago.

Seismography: The seismic survery indicated the existence of several unexplored tunnels and cavities in the bedrock beneath the Sphinx, including a large rectangluar chamber at a depth of some 25 feet beneath the monument's front paws.

This film linked the Sphinx to Atlantis and suggested that the chamber beneath the paws might contain the legendary 'Hall of Records' of Atlantis.

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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
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There is about to be a worldwide press conference about it. Patrick Geryl says it will be next week. When I get the details I will post it if Rob or someone hasn't. Here are Patrick's links....

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_day/brnws_01.htm

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_day/brnws_02.htm

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_day/brnws_03.htm

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_day/laby_02.htm

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_day/laby_03.htm

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_day/laby_04.htm

http://www.howtosurvive2012.com/htm_day/laby_05.htm

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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
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Egypt's man in charge of antiquities, Dr Hiwasse, does not let anybody near anything that doesn't go along with 'his' way of thinking....

He still claims the sphinx and the 'great pyramid' are less than 5000 years old, and built by Egyptian Pharaohs....

Dr Schoch, as well as a few others, have very good evidence the monuments are dated around 10,000 BC....as I believe is correct....

I believe the pyramids of Egypt were 'copys' of the great one, and it took them many attempts to emulate it, and never did completely....

around 10,000 BC, Teotihuacan, the pyramid, sphinx, and some other sites, were built in order to warn mankind of a recurring cosmic disaster, imo, but too many clues are missing, or I am wrong, or they have been sabotaged to keep us from learning the truth....

even the monument at Izapa that tells of the end of this age, has the description scratched off of it...it states "(blank) will happen", so aomebody doesn't want us to know....

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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:12 pm 
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Nakor wrote:
It might been discussed here before, if so, sorry for reopening the subject.

I have alot of thoughts about this, that I will share with you later, but, what are your thoughts about the 'secret room(s)' below the sphinx?
A few questions:

1) Does it exists / how is it proven?
2) What is inside this room(s)?
3) Why doesn't Egypt allow researchers to do more research?
4) Does the content relate to Atlantis
5) Does the content relate to 2012 or another similar happening?

I've answerd these questions already and will post my thoughts later today or tomorrow.


1) Yes, and it has been proven. There is something under the Sphinx, and it's big.
2) A library, part of the atlantean knowledge.
3) Because if this knowledge is to be shared, quite a few wouldn't be happy.
4) It does, see #2.
5) Don't know :-)


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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:53 pm 
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Careful with that edgar cacyce guy.. hehe :)

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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
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but too many clues are missing, or I am wrong, or they have been sabotaged to keep us from learning the truth....


Hmmmmm......interesting. I guess though one would have to first ask IF there were clues at all. Even if there were how would you know they were clues?


*the best way to hide something is to hide it in plain sight*

<perhaps another clue...... :) >


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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
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Dr Schoch used ground penetrating radar around the sphinx paws and mapped a very large 'open space' in the shape of a rectangle....

uhh, thats' a clue...

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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
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sorry i didn't had time to post my thoughts on this yet, i will as soon as i get home.

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I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to sneak into the Sphinx...

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http://www.mataha.org/ Hall of Records found?


The Mataha-expedition discovered the lost labyrinth of Egypt at Hawara. A colossal temple described by many classic authors like Herodotus and Strabo, to contain 3000 rooms full of hieroglyphs and paintings. A legendary building lost for 2 millenia under the ancient sands of Egypt. Bringing the highest level of technology to unlock the secrets of the past. The sand of Hawara was scanned earlier this year (February-March 2008) by the Belgian Egyptian expedition team. Although ground penetrating techniques have been used by archaeologists for years, the Mataha-expedition (Mataha = labyrinth in Arabic) was the first to apply this technology at Hawara, to solve the enigma born in the Renaissance for once.

The conclusion of the Hawara geophysic-survey is officially released by the Egyptian authorities at the workshop in Cairo organized by the NRIAG on 11 of August 2008. This took place in the presence of some members of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, a representative of UNESCO, professors of international Universities, researchers of Cairo based archaeological institutes and a small selection of specialized archaeological press.

Before taking off with the conclusion, it needs to be said that the presented geo-archaeological results about the Labyrinth were received with positive scepticism by archaeologists and alike, who still prefer to believe actual excavation as confirmation of the discovery, without touching the integrity of the geophysic team professionalism. This feeling of doubt was expected like geophysic technics are new in the field of archaeology. Till very recently geophysics were namely only used by the military and oil industry. All geophysic results regarding the groundwater and the geologic situation, are in contrast fully taken for granted by all parties, and even formed the actual start of the existing preservation master plan for the Hawara archaeological site, by the Egyptian government and the Supreme council of Antiquities.

The mission of the Mataha-expedition was, besides preservation, to research the quarry theory by Petrie based on his finding of a great artificial stone surface (304meter on 244meter). Petrie interpreted the enormous artificial stone plateau he discovered at the depth of several meters, as the foundation of the labyrinth, concluding that the building itself was totally demolished, as a stone quarry in the Ptolemaic period. However, the “foundation” impenetrated by early expeditions, never lost the possibility of being the roof of the Labyrinth, described by Strabo as a great plain of stone.

The Mataha – expedition research confirms the presence of archaeological features at the labyrinth area south of the Hawara pyramid of Amenemhet III. These features covering an underground area of several hectares, have the prominent signature of vertical walls on the geophysical results. The vertical walls with an average thickness of several meters, are connected to shape nearly closed rooms, which are interpreted to be huge in number. Consequently, the geophysic survey initiated with the cordial permission of Dr. Zahi Hawass the president of the Supreme Council of Antiquities, and conducted by the National Research Institute of Astronomy and Geophysics (Helwan, Cairo) with the support of Ghent University, can now officially verify the occurrence of big parts of the Labyrinth as described by the classic authors at the study area. The Labyrinth data are acquired mainly from 2 scanned surfaces at the labyrinth area south of the pyramid. One scan survey of 150m by 100m on the right site of the Bahr Wahbi canal, and one on the left site (80m by 100m). Two considerations regarding the conclusion. Seen the survey provided only two big puzzles, the total size and shape of the labyrinth can not yet been concluded. Secondly, the data of the labyrinth are accurate, because of the exceptional dimensions of the structure, but the geophysic profiles still need some filtration to give more details. Groundwater affected the consistency of the survey. The partial defacement of the data is due to the high salinity of the shallow subsurface water and the seasonal fluctuation of this level. So we recommend also another episode of geophysical survey after the dewatering project to enhance the outcome to great extent.

In the upper ground zone above the water level, walls appear at the shallow depth ranging between 1,5 to 2,5 meters. These decayed mudbrick features are very chaotic and show no consistent grid structure and can be comfortably related with the historic period of the Ptolemaic and Roman times. A period in which is known, that the labyrinth area was used as a cemetery, and probably also changed to a living area in the Byzantine period. Underneath this upper zone, below the artificial stone surface appears (in spite of the turbid effect of the groundwater) at the depth of 8 to 12 meters a grid structure of gigantic size made of a very high resistivity material like granit stone. This states the presence of a colossal archaeological feature below the labyrinth “foundation” zone of Petrie, which has to be reconsidered as the roof of the still existing labyrinth. The conclusion of the geo-archaeological expedition encounters in a scientific way the idea that the labyrinth was destructed as a stone quary in Ptolemaic times and validates the authenticity of the classical author reports. The massive grid structure of the labyrinth is also out of angle by 20° to 25° from the Hawara pyramid orientation. An analysis shifting the contemporary idea of the labyrinth as funerary temple and its supposed construction age, but on the other hand it hardens Herodotus accuracy, who described the nearby pyramid to be at the corner of the labyrinth. It might even be considered that the remains of the labyrinth run unaffectedly underneath the canal, which crosses the total Hawara area. Like the scanned Labyrinth sections on both sides of Bahr Wahbi canal have similar and parallel grids on the geophysical results.

From a preservative view of the Hawara archaeological site, humanity is now facing a great challenge. The water level, which raised dramatically since the last decades, is detected at a depth of about 4-5 meters below the ground surface at the labyrinth area. Drowning the whole site completely in the corrosive salty water, which agressively destructs the stones of the labyrinth on a great scale. Making environmental protection directly the utmost necessity. UNESCO committee members publicly considered after the official release of the research conclusion at the workshop in Cairo, to mark the total Hawara site “world heritage”, as the first UNESCO step towards the launch of an international safeguarding campaign. This should be a great honour en help, like Hawara not only contains important Middle Kingdom to late Roman antiquities, but also the greatest wonder of the classical world. With the words of Herodotus “surpassing even the great pyramids of Giza”.

In contrast to many sites, which become vulnerable to illegal excavations and theft after the release of their discovery, the Labyrinth is contradictory protected from illegal human activity by the saline water that destroys it. A situation we can not push towards a next generation without presenting an empty box, like all hieroglyphic texts as described by the classic others will be very soon lost forever, eaten out by salt crystals.
An archaeological rescue operation as never seen before will therefore have to be organized, to raise the necessary media attention, experts, technology and funds to start the drainage, protection and the total excavation of the labyrinth of Egypt. The Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities expressed their great devotion and responsibility by announcing the start of the actual renovate master plan for the site, but as a the labyrinth affects the whole world, we are responsible to work together with this great country that bears already the heavy weight to preserve and protect the remains of a giant civilization. A fantastic country with great people, that is reaching a warm hand to the rest of the world to share this new discovered global human heritage.

The Mataha-Expedition team therefore directs the need for any kind of support to all man. We believe that humanity reached the point of civilization to be able to work unconditional together at high efficiency with the honorary aim to protect and discover the colossal stone book that the ancients built with an unimaginable effort of love, to communicate with us from the deep black of time.

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 Post subject: Re: "Hall of records" under the Sphinx
PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 10:14 pm 
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Well done Patrick!

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The Mataha expedition should never been possible without the beneficent help of author and independent researcher Patrick Geryl. Since many years Patrick Geryl researched the Labyrinth of Egypt. Experienced as team member of the Giza plateau geophysic scanning (2006), Geryl introduced Louis De Cordier to the Egyptian National Research Institute of Astronomy and Geophysics in December 2007. Opening the way to the effective realisation in Egypt. In his books, Patrick Geryl continues his scientific analysis with the millennia-old codes of the Maya and Egyptians. He determines that both cultures arose from a lost antediluvian civilization, which was able to calculate previous polar shifts and that we should take very seriously their calculations, that place the next reversal in 2012. Geryl expects in his books that the labyrinth of Egypt will contain the Circle of Gold, the forgotten hall of records of this ancient civilization, as an ultimate message for humanity .


I find it extraordinary that this was seeming funded by two private individuals, meaning that all the universities and government bodies of the world don't care or aren't interested.

If anyone has a similar project that needs funds, I'm all ears.


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